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		<title>By: OMM 2009</title>
		<link>http://www.sterling-adventures.co.uk/blog/2008/10/27/a-very-wet-day-around-borrowdale/#comment-9286</link>
		<dc:creator>OMM 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] spent the whole weekend in a sleeping bag in a tent. The second time, we failed to finish because the race was called off due to the weather. This time, I was wondering whether yet again I would not complete as my partner decided to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sterling Adventures Blog &#187; Adventure Bloggers Rendezvous</title>
		<link>http://www.sterling-adventures.co.uk/blog/2008/10/27/a-very-wet-day-around-borrowdale/#comment-8652</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post about last year&#8217;s flooded OMM was noted as the post with the most readers in a single day. We also toasted Rachel&#8217;s scoop [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jon Stevens</title>
		<link>http://www.sterling-adventures.co.uk/blog/2008/10/27/a-very-wet-day-around-borrowdale/#comment-5705</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rachel,

Glad to hear that you, like 99% of competitors had an enjoyable, safe and certainly memorable time.

To give a little more in-sight &#039;from the horses mouth&#039; as it were, I was out with Penrith MRT, &#039;assisting&#039; Keswick along with Cockermouth. I think Wasdale MRT were out as well, but doing their own thing. In reality, all we did was drive about occasionally chatting to very soggy but usually smiling competitors!

As you say, the OMM organisers had their bit covered, and Keswick had the MR side of things covered. They were certainly busy, but it was manageable and multiple casualty scenarios is something all teams train for.

Unfortunately, and I still don&#039;t know quite how yet, plod got involved, hit the major incident button and it all unravelled from there...  :geek:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rachel,</p>
<p>Glad to hear that you, like 99% of competitors had an enjoyable, safe and certainly memorable time.</p>
<p>To give a little more in-sight &#8216;from the horses mouth&#8217; as it were, I was out with Penrith MRT, &#8216;assisting&#8217; Keswick along with Cockermouth. I think Wasdale MRT were out as well, but doing their own thing. In reality, all we did was drive about occasionally chatting to very soggy but usually smiling competitors!</p>
<p>As you say, the OMM organisers had their bit covered, and Keswick had the MR side of things covered. They were certainly busy, but it was manageable and multiple casualty scenarios is something all teams train for.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, and I still don&#8217;t know quite how yet, plod got involved, hit the major incident button and it all unravelled from there&#8230;  <img src='http://www.sterling-adventures.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_geek.gif' alt=':geek:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.sterling-adventures.co.uk/blog/2008/10/27/a-very-wet-day-around-borrowdale/#comment-5681</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Dave, and there&#039;s more &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.grough.co.uk/view/2008/10/28/health-boss-make-marathon-organisers-pay-rescue-costs/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dave, and there&#8217;s more <a href="http://www.grough.co.uk/view/2008/10/28/health-boss-make-marathon-organisers-pay-rescue-costs/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">here</a> too.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.sterling-adventures.co.uk/blog/2008/10/27/a-very-wet-day-around-borrowdale/#comment-5673</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone sent me this link to a rather more balanced report on the OMM 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.grough.co.uk/view/2008/10/26/all-back-safe-as-media-storm-follows-omm-weekend/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.grough.co.uk/view/2008/10/26/all-back-safe-as-media-storm-follows-omm-weekend/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone sent me this link to a rather more balanced report on the OMM </p>
<p><a href="http://www.grough.co.uk/view/2008/10/26/all-back-safe-as-media-storm-follows-omm-weekend/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.grough.co.uk/view/2008/10/26/all-back-safe-as-media-storm-follows-omm-weekend/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.sterling-adventures.co.uk/blog/2008/10/27/a-very-wet-day-around-borrowdale/#comment-5670</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The videos I saw were of people walking over Honister Pass back to the event centre (so not racing), or people climbing up the side of Great Gable from Wasdale Head. Even the elite teams don&#039;t run up stuff like that! Or if they do, they don&#039;t do it for long.  :shock: 

We run the flat and downhill stuff, and the uphill if it isn&#039;t too steep.

As far as I know, nobody actually slept out on the fells on saturday night. Many people were in a barn at the mid-camp. Others were at a School in Cockermouth, the Glaramara Centre, and Honister Slate Mine. There were lots like us who were back at the event centre.

It appears 17 people needed assistance off the hill, of whom seven, including two Mountain Rescue Team members were helicoptered off a small island in the middle of a river after becoming trapped there, but only one was injured. The real story should be: &quot;2500 experienced mountain runners went up the fells in horrendous conditions and 2483 of them returned without incident&quot; :!:  :grin:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The videos I saw were of people walking over Honister Pass back to the event centre (so not racing), or people climbing up the side of Great Gable from Wasdale Head. Even the elite teams don&#8217;t run up stuff like that! Or if they do, they don&#8217;t do it for long.  <img src='http://www.sterling-adventures.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt=':shock:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>We run the flat and downhill stuff, and the uphill if it isn&#8217;t too steep.</p>
<p>As far as I know, nobody actually slept out on the fells on saturday night. Many people were in a barn at the mid-camp. Others were at a School in Cockermouth, the Glaramara Centre, and Honister Slate Mine. There were lots like us who were back at the event centre.</p>
<p>It appears 17 people needed assistance off the hill, of whom seven, including two Mountain Rescue Team members were helicoptered off a small island in the middle of a river after becoming trapped there, but only one was injured. The real story should be: &#8220;2500 experienced mountain runners went up the fells in horrendous conditions and 2483 of them returned without incident&#8221; <img src='http://www.sterling-adventures.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif' alt=':!:' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://www.sterling-adventures.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':grin:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Laetitia</title>
		<link>http://www.sterling-adventures.co.uk/blog/2008/10/27/a-very-wet-day-around-borrowdale/#comment-5669</link>
		<dc:creator>Laetitia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thankfully it seems that many people are not taken in by the media. Lots of people at work have said they think the media have gone mad and that the race is for experienced people who know how to deal with those kinds of conditions and can make their own mind up whether to go out or not.

Anyway, I&#039;m still glad you were both safe.

I couldn&#039;t really tell from your photos, but the news footage only seemed to show people walking. Is that because of the weather, because they were knackered, or is it really just a walk?!?!?!  :wink:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankfully it seems that many people are not taken in by the media. Lots of people at work have said they think the media have gone mad and that the race is for experienced people who know how to deal with those kinds of conditions and can make their own mind up whether to go out or not.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m still glad you were both safe.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t really tell from your photos, but the news footage only seemed to show people walking. Is that because of the weather, because they were knackered, or is it really just a walk?!?!?!  <img src='http://www.sterling-adventures.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The over-reaction in the media has really been annoying me so it is good to get an account from the horse&#039;s mouth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The over-reaction in the media has really been annoying me so it is good to get an account from the horse&#8217;s mouth!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.sterling-adventures.co.uk/blog/2008/10/27/a-very-wet-day-around-borrowdale/#comment-5661</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah that looks like fun  :smile:  I figured the reports were typical media over-hyping and 1500 &quot;stranded on the mountain&quot; actually meant 1500 highly experienced people doing the sensible thing and bedding down somewhere for the night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah that looks like fun  <img src='http://www.sterling-adventures.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':smile:' class='wp-smiley' />   I figured the reports were typical media over-hyping and 1500 &#8220;stranded on the mountain&#8221; actually meant 1500 highly experienced people doing the sensible thing and bedding down somewhere for the night.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.sterling-adventures.co.uk/blog/2008/10/27/a-very-wet-day-around-borrowdale/#comment-5657</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve had &lt;del datetime=&quot;2008-10-28T15:55:47+00:00&quot;&gt;85&lt;/del&gt;&lt;ins datetime=&quot;2008-10-28T15:55:47+00:00&quot;&gt;165&lt;/ins&gt; views here in the past &lt;ins datetime=&quot;2008-10-28T15:55:47+00:00&quot;&gt;2&lt;/ins&gt; hours too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve had <del datetime="2008-10-28T15:55:47+00:00">85</del><ins datetime="2008-10-28T15:55:47+00:00">165</ins> views here in the past <ins datetime="2008-10-28T15:55:47+00:00">2</ins> hours too!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.sterling-adventures.co.uk/blog/2008/10/27/a-very-wet-day-around-borrowdale/#comment-5656</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure that was a &#039;no&#039; from Pete!

To add to the report:

I don&#039;t think either of us did anything unnecessarily dangerous at any point in the race. Yes, it rained incredibly hard, but we were well equipped for that and I don&#039;t think we were at risk of hypothermia at any time. Yes, the wind was strong enough to blow you over, but only in gusts, and you could simply wait until it was safe to move. Yes, we crossed some fast flowing water, but again it was well within our capabilities.

I also don&#039;t think the organisers did much wrong. It appears the race was cancelled only because the mid-camp was flooding and there would be nowhere for everyone to camp. It wasn&#039;t cancelled because of the conditions. I think they probably should have had signs and/or tape up on the road to Seathwaite to prevent people parking on the road where cars got flooded. They also should have recorded the fact that we&#039;d been to the mid-camp before we walked back over Honister pass to the event centre. Apparently the forecast was for less rain on Saturday than there had been on Thursday when the mid-camp flooded, so I don&#039;t think they can be blamed for expecting the mid-camp would be OK.

I think most competitors will be back next year, and will be hoping that the rather sensationalist news reporting doesn&#039;t jeopardise future events.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that was a &#8216;no&#8217; from Pete!</p>
<p>To add to the report:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think either of us did anything unnecessarily dangerous at any point in the race. Yes, it rained incredibly hard, but we were well equipped for that and I don&#8217;t think we were at risk of hypothermia at any time. Yes, the wind was strong enough to blow you over, but only in gusts, and you could simply wait until it was safe to move. Yes, we crossed some fast flowing water, but again it was well within our capabilities.</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t think the organisers did much wrong. It appears the race was cancelled only because the mid-camp was flooding and there would be nowhere for everyone to camp. It wasn&#8217;t cancelled because of the conditions. I think they probably should have had signs and/or tape up on the road to Seathwaite to prevent people parking on the road where cars got flooded. They also should have recorded the fact that we&#8217;d been to the mid-camp before we walked back over Honister pass to the event centre. Apparently the forecast was for less rain on Saturday than there had been on Thursday when the mid-camp flooded, so I don&#8217;t think they can be blamed for expecting the mid-camp would be OK.</p>
<p>I think most competitors will be back next year, and will be hoping that the rather sensationalist news reporting doesn&#8217;t jeopardise future events.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.sterling-adventures.co.uk/blog/2008/10/27/a-very-wet-day-around-borrowdale/#comment-5654</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some aspects of the science might be interesting, I guess...</description>
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		<title>By: Rachel White</title>
		<link>http://www.sterling-adventures.co.uk/blog/2008/10/27/a-very-wet-day-around-borrowdale/#comment-5652</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having just posted this on the OMM forum, I am amazed to have almost 100 views of the post in 30 minutes! Even considering that only 50% actually read this article, that is probably many more reads than my scientific paper will ever get! Pete - can I start publishing my science on here too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having just posted this on the OMM forum, I am amazed to have almost 100 views of the post in 30 minutes! Even considering that only 50% actually read this article, that is probably many more reads than my scientific paper will ever get! Pete &#8211; can I start publishing my science on here too?</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
		<link>http://www.sterling-adventures.co.uk/blog/2008/10/27/a-very-wet-day-around-borrowdale/#comment-5651</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is the longest excuse I have ever read for not winning  :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is the longest excuse I have ever read for not winning  <img src='http://www.sterling-adventures.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rachel White</title>
		<link>http://www.sterling-adventures.co.uk/blog/2008/10/27/a-very-wet-day-around-borrowdale/#comment-5650</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a right good adventure - still smiling!

For the record, the Mountain Rescue didn&#039;t advise the organisers to cancel either! :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a right good adventure &#8211; still smiling!</p>
<p>For the record, the Mountain Rescue didn&#8217;t advise the organisers to cancel either! <img src='http://www.sterling-adventures.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.sterling-adventures.co.uk/blog/2008/10/27/a-very-wet-day-around-borrowdale/#comment-5649</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing report Rachel!

Sounds like the media reporting was a bit over dramatic?  Especially the bit about the 1500 stranded runners who weren&#039;t!   :angry: 
I bet the BBC had about 1500 reporters there too - all at license payers expense!

It looks like a right good adventure!   :mrgreen:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing report Rachel!</p>
<p>Sounds like the media reporting was a bit over dramatic?  Especially the bit about the 1500 stranded runners who weren&#8217;t!   <img src='http://www.sterling-adventures.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/angry.gif' alt=':angry:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I bet the BBC had about 1500 reporters there too &#8211; all at license payers expense!</p>
<p>It looks like a right good adventure!   <img src='http://www.sterling-adventures.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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