Comments on: Broken Laws

By: Ian

Ian — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:41:17 +0000

Oooeer Tish… I don’t know any women like that

And of course, the local rodent population is successfully controlled by Andromeda, our cat.

Cue Pete……………………..

By: Pete

Pete — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:06:42 +0000

But Keith, it’s November, the weather is crap, and this is fun…

By: keith sanders

keith sanders — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:05:28 +0000

I think you all should get out more on the hills and have a good blowout instead of ranting on

By: Laetitia

Laetitia — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:44:32 +0000

I agree with Ian about the amount of time I believe is wasted on discussing this issue by idiot mps that don’t know the first thing about real life (on all sides). It’s our tax paying money that’s going down the pan.
I also agree that the fox population needs to be controlled.
I understand that people get pleasure out of chasing and killing animals – it’s human nature (and women do it all the time to men (killing their will to live apparently)). But just because, as humans, we like it and just because we can do it, doesn’t mean we should.

Talking of controlling populations…. there are a few others that could do with being controlled.

By: Ian

Ian — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:28:22 +0000

You’ve misunderstood me Pete. I’m not really bothered one way or the other on hunting. What really riles is the amount of time and the importance this govt. gave to the issue. What about going to war?? For how long did the MPs debate that issue?? There are a lot more important issues to be dealt with. And who’s going to police it?? I’d rather have more police on the streets in places like Sutton to prevent yobs kicking some poor bloke to death.
I still think the fox population needs to be controlled; infact more have been killed since the ban came in because landowners are just shooting them. it used to be in landowners interest to keep a healthy fox population by promoting their habitat, such as copses. Not any more. The rural fox will be killed off and driven into the urban areas, where it will certainly become a pest. Probably not the outcome the fox supporters wanted.

Of course the tiger is an endangered species so I’m all for protecting them. As for the fox……. I don’t really care

By: Pete

Pete — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:57:33 +0000

You’re not really listening are you Ian – have you actually read what I’ve written? Or more likely have you just focussed on your broad view that hunting is okay? Break it down – what aspects are okay, and what aren’t…

Boris has a phrase, “Don’t confuse me with the facts, I’ve already made my mind up.”

I think this applies here, I’m happy for people to thrash about on horses and enjoy a Sunday morning social. I even think that the opportunity is there for the ban to make the horse riding part even better; an opportunity that is being ignored by the bloody minded (pun intended) hunts. I’m also happy to have fox numbers controlled (especially in the city as Colin points out). The bit that is unnecessary in a modern context is brutal destruction of natural wildlife.

What is your position on the Chinese killing tigers for their traditional remedies? Is that something that should be stopped/changed?

By: Pete

Pete — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:41:45 +0000

What would you suggest; Nick Griffin?

By: ian

ian — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:32:54 +0000

By: Pete

Pete — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:14:43 +0000

Lib Dem?

By: Pete

Pete — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:50:48 +0000

Sure, good stuff is worth keeping. But bad stuff – like barbaric blood sports that exist to entertain the upper class are not. Of course, as I’ve said, they like all of us are entitled to their leisure – and drag-hunts are a great way to make the exciting charging-around-on-horses bit better. Plus if done properly (not as they do now, which is basically just a cover to carry on tearing living animals to bits) it would preserve the tradition! All of that is why it’s called “change”, the ban could be used to change this for the better, but instead the hunters cry for more blood. Is that you idea of civilised?

By: Richard

Richard — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:21:01 +0000

Be thankful that the Tories have had the decency to announce they’re going to do this before the election. They could have just followed the tried and traditional approach of not mentioning an unpopular policy until after being elected and then implementing it.

There are lots of things not to like about politicians. Firing the heads of “independent” bodies who dare to have views that are supported by science but happen to disagree with yours springs to mind this week. Announcing the policies they will campaign for at the next election is not one of them, in my opinion.

Not, I hasten to add, that I like the idea of the law being repealed any more than you do. It’s another reason not to vote for the Tories. Now then, is there anyone left *to* vote for?

By: Anna

Anna — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:06:07 +0000

Colin, I have ignored the boys’ scrapping (it’s all so predictable and just read your post, but some of it is like a foreign language to me! However, great idea to extend hunting to the cities – although I don’t ride well enough to partake in the country perhaps I could manage the urban version; maybe I need to buy, sorry, steal, a pit bull and tracksuit??

By: Anna

Anna — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:00:10 +0000

IMPOSTOR!!!!

By: Colin

Colin — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:08:06 +0000

Pete, I agree with you that change is important and something that has become irrelevant to the present day should not be protected because of tradition but I cannot agree that legislation is always the way to go in this case.

The problem with fox hunting is that it fails to follow the majority of foxes; which now live in the towns and cities. Fox hunting with dogs has become disliked by such a large majority of the pole answering public because it has failed to keep-up with a fast changing world and stay relevant to modern society. To achieve relevance I would like to see fox hunting moved to the town and cities (where most foxes are), horses dumped in favour of nicked twist and goes (with the body work removed), traditional attire replaced with three strip trackies and the dog pack to consist of pit bulls called Tyson. I believe that these changes would reverse the voting balance you quote and therefore fox hunting with hounds would be okay again.

By your logic

By: Ian

Ian — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:02:22 +0000

I wrote that last comment………….. but I know Anna’s password, and couldn’t resist it!!

By: Anna

Anna — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:59:52 +0000

What’s wrong with bear-baiting and deporting children to Botany Bay????